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Proper Name
Nelson Augusto Norman
High Level
MLB (1978-1987)
Positions
SS (831) ... 2B (243) ... 3B (45) ... OF (5) ... 1B (1)
Ht / Wt
6-2 / 160
Bats / Throws
Both / Right
age
65.360
place
San Pedro De Macoris,Dominican Republic
High School
None listed
draft posit
SS
MLB Debut
MLB Teams
TEX [4] PIT [4] MON [4] NYN [1] BAL [1]
TBC#
16027
mlbam id
119840
Retrosheet
Stat Capsuleavgopsabrhhrrbisb
Career MLB [1978-1987].221.51942942950254
Speed
36
Power
21
Contact
89
XBH
23
RBIs
32
Runs
35
Hitting
52
Durability
50
Team
.516
Player Notes:  
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Batting Statistics
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year team name league level org age   # pos link   g ab   r   h 2b 3b hr rbi sb cs bb so hbp sh sf iw gdp tb pa xbh 1b avg obp slg ops secA iso babip bb% so% so/bb ab/hr
1977 Shreveport Mets Tex AA nyn 19 -- ss -- 94 358 31 90 14 2 0 23 4 5 21 38 0 6 3 0 0 108 388 16 74 .251 .291 .302 .592 .106 .050 .279 5.41 9.79 1.81 --
1977 Columbus Clippers IL AAA pit 19 -- ss -- 28 90 9 21 4 0 0 8 1 1 4 13 0 1 1 0 0 25 96 4 17 .233 .263 .278 .541 .089 .044 .269 4.17 13.54 3.25 --
1978 Tucson Toros PCL AAA tex 20 -- ss -- 122 469 82 133 17 7 2 76 17 6 51 33 2 8 5 0 0 170 535 26 107 .284 .353 .362 .715 .211 .079 .298 9.53 6.17 0.65 234.50
1978 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 20 4 ss log 23 34 1 9 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 5 0 1 0 0 1 11 35 2 7 .265 .265 .324 .588 .059 .059 .310 0.00 14.29 -- --
1979 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 21 4 ss log 147 343 36 76 9 3 0 21 4 1 19 41 0 18 3 0 5 91 383 12 64 .222 .260 .265 .526 .108 .044 .249 4.96 10.70 2.16 --
1980 Charleston Charlies IL AAA tex 22 -- ss -- 28 99 7 24 2 0 0 5 4 4 14 6 0 1 0 0 0 26 114 2 22 .242 .336 .263 .599 .162 .020 .258 12.28 5.26 0.43 --
1980 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 22 4 ss log 17 32 4 7 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 2 7 34 0 7 .219 .242 .219 .461 .000 .000 .226 2.94 2.94 1.00 --
1981 Wichita Aeros Amer AAA tex 23 -- ss -- 115 349 37 86 7 0 0 31 3 2 26 40 1 11 4 0 0 93 391 7 79 .246 .297 .266 .564 .097 .020 .275 6.65 10.23 1.54 --
1981 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 23 4 ss log 7 13 1 3 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 4 15 1 2 .231 .267 .308 .574 .154 .077 .250 6.67 13.33 2.00 --
1982 Portland Beavers PCL AAA pit 24 20 ss -- 134 445 58 120 7 4 1 52 9 11 76 27 2 4 3 3 0 138 530 12 108 .270 .376 .310 .687 .207 .040 .283 14.34 5.09 0.36 445.00
1982 Pittsburgh Pirates NL MLB pit 24 22 2b-ss log 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 0.00 -- --
1983 Lynn Sailors East AA pit 25 -- 2b -- 122 410 77 110 13 5 5 53 2 4 85 25 1 5 4 3 0 148 505 23 87 .268 .392 .361 .753 .295 .093 .273 16.83 4.95 0.29 82.00
1984 Hawaii Islanders PCL AAA pit 26 -- 2b -- 73 209 29 60 8 1 0 18 0 3 37 14 0 0 2 4 0 70 248 9 51 .287 .391 .335 .726 .211 .048 .305 14.92 5.65 0.38 --
1985 Rochester Red Wings IL AAA bal 27 -- 2b -- 84 204 19 38 4 2 2 11 3 2 35 17 0 6 3 0 0 52 248 8 30 .186 .302 .255 .557 .245 .069 .191 14.11 6.85 0.49 102.00
1986 Jacksonville Expos Sou AA mon 28 -- ss -- 122 402 53 116 19 3 1 45 2 3 44 15 1 4 4 4 0 144 455 23 93 .289 .357 .358 .715 .177 .070 .295 9.67 3.30 0.34 402.00
1987 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 29 -- ss-3b -- 76 219 30 64 11 1 4 30 1 0 23 14 0 1 6 3 0 89 249 16 48 .292 .351 .406 .757 .224 .114 .290 9.24 5.62 0.61 54.75
1987 Montreal Expos NL MLB mon 29 33 ss log 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 25.00 -- --
1988 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 30 -- ss -- 67 159 14 35 1 0 2 18 0 0 12 9 0 3 1 2 0 42 175 3 32 .220 .273 .264 .537 .119 .044 .221 6.86 5.14 0.75 79.50
1989 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 31 -- ss -- 8 12 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 3 0 0 0 1 17 0 1 .083 .214 .083 .298 .167 .000 .091 11.76 5.88 0.50 --
1977 AA / AAA Total -- PIT,NYN -- -- -- -- 122 448 40 111 18 2 0 31 5 6 25 51 0 7 4 0 0 133 484 20 91 .248 .285 .297 .582 .103 .049 .277 5.17 10.54 2.04 --
1978 AAA Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 122 469 82 133 17 7 2 76 17 6 51 33 2 8 5 0 0 170 535 26 107 .284 .353 .362 .715 .211 .079 .298 9.53 6.17 0.65 234.50
1978 MLB Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 23 34 1 9 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 5 0 1 0 0 1 11 35 2 7 .265 .265 .324 .588 .059 .059 .310 0.00 14.29 -- --
1979 MLB Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 147 343 36 76 9 3 0 21 4 1 19 41 0 18 3 0 5 91 383 12 64 .222 .260 .265 .526 .108 .044 .249 4.96 10.70 2.16 --
1980 AAA Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 28 99 7 24 2 0 0 5 4 4 14 6 0 1 0 0 0 26 114 2 22 .242 .336 .263 .599 .162 .020 .258 12.28 5.26 0.43 --
1980 MLB Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 17 32 4 7 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 2 7 34 0 7 .219 .242 .219 .461 .000 .000 .226 2.94 2.94 1.00 --
1981 AAA Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 115 349 37 86 7 0 0 31 3 2 26 40 1 11 4 0 0 93 391 7 79 .246 .297 .266 .564 .097 .020 .275 6.65 10.23 1.54 --
1981 MLB Total -- TEX -- -- -- -- 7 13 1 3 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 4 15 1 2 .231 .267 .308 .574 .154 .077 .250 6.67 13.33 2.00 --
1982 AAA Total -- PIT -- -- -- -- 134 445 58 120 7 4 1 52 9 11 76 27 2 4 3 3 0 138 530 12 108 .270 .376 .310 .687 .207 .040 .283 14.34 5.09 0.36 445.00
1982 MLB Total -- PIT -- -- -- -- 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 0.00 -- --
1983 AA Total -- PIT -- -- -- -- 122 410 77 110 13 5 5 53 2 4 85 25 1 5 4 3 0 148 505 23 87 .268 .392 .361 .753 .295 .093 .273 16.83 4.95 0.29 82.00
1984 AAA Total -- PIT -- -- -- -- 73 209 29 60 8 1 0 18 0 3 37 14 0 0 2 4 0 70 248 9 51 .287 .391 .335 .726 .211 .048 .305 14.92 5.65 0.38 --
1985 AAA Total -- BAL -- -- -- -- 84 204 19 38 4 2 2 11 3 2 35 17 0 6 3 0 0 52 248 8 30 .186 .302 .255 .557 .245 .069 .191 14.11 6.85 0.49 102.00
1986 AA Total -- MON -- -- -- -- 122 402 53 116 19 3 1 45 2 3 44 15 1 4 4 4 0 144 455 23 93 .289 .357 .358 .715 .177 .070 .295 9.67 3.30 0.34 402.00
1987 AAA Total -- MON -- -- -- -- 76 219 30 64 11 1 4 30 1 0 23 14 0 1 6 3 0 89 249 16 48 .292 .351 .406 .757 .224 .114 .290 9.24 5.62 0.61 54.75
1987 MLB Total -- MON -- -- -- -- 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 25.00 -- --
1988 AAA Total -- MON -- -- -- -- 67 159 14 35 1 0 2 18 0 0 12 9 0 3 1 2 0 42 175 3 32 .220 .273 .264 .537 .119 .044 .221 6.86 5.14 0.75 79.50
1989 AAA Total -- MON -- -- -- -- 8 12 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 3 0 0 0 1 17 0 1 .083 .214 .083 .298 .167 .000 .091 11.76 5.88 0.50 --
Total MLB (6 yrs) -- MLB -- -- -- -- -- 198 429 42 95 12 3 0 25 4 2 21 50 0 20 4 0 8 113 474 15 80 .221 .256 .263 .519 .096 .042 .248 4.43 10.55 2.38 --
Total Minors (12 yrs) -- Minors -- -- -- -- -- 1073 3425 447 898 107 25 17 370 46 41 430 252 7 53 36 19 0 1106 3951 149 749 .262 .342 .323 .665 .188 .061 .276 10.88 6.38 0.59 201.47
Total AL (4 yrs) -- AL -- -- -- -- -- 194 422 42 95 12 3 0 25 4 2 21 49 0 20 4 0 8 113 467 15 80 .225 .260 .268 .527 .097 .043 .252 4.50 10.49 2.33 --
Total NL (2 yrs) -- NL -- -- -- -- -- 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 14.29 -- --
Total AAA (10 yrs) -- AAA -- -- -- -- -- 735 2255 286 582 61 15 11 249 38 29 280 174 5 38 25 12 0 706 2603 87 495 .258 .338 .313 .651 .183 .055 .273 10.76 6.68 0.62 205.00
Total AA (3 yrs) -- AA -- -- -- -- -- 338 1170 161 316 46 10 6 121 8 12 150 78 2 15 11 7 0 400 1348 62 254 .270 .351 .342 .693 .197 .072 .283 11.13 5.79 0.52 195.00
Fielding Statistics
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  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
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year team name league level mlb age pos   g gs inn po   a   e dp tc tsc sb cs sb% fpct rfg rfi rf9i tm shr pl shr tm rk
1978 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 20 3b 6 2 23.0 2 4 0 1 6 6 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 0.26 2.35 3.7 26.1 5
1978 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 20 ss 18 8 90.2 14 46 1 7 61 60 0 0 -- .984 3.3 0.67 5.99 11.1 78.3 4
1978 Tucson Toros PCL AAA tex 20 ss 122 0 0.0 200 376 39 93 615 576 0 0 -- .937 4.7 -- -- 87.1 100.0 1
1979 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 21 2b 1 0 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- .000 0.0 0.00 0.00 0.6 0.7 4
1979 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 21 ss 142 115 1,015.0 177 302 24 64 503 479 0 0 -- .952 3.4 0.47 4.25 87.7 96.6 1
1980 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 22 ss 17 12 101.2 21 45 4 12 70 66 0 0 -- .943 3.9 0.65 5.87 10.6 100.0 4
1980 Charleston Charlies IL AAA tex 22 2b 3 0 0.0 10 6 0 4 16 16 0 0 -- 1.000 5.3 -- -- 2.2 10.7 4
1980 Charleston Charlies IL AAA tex 22 ss 24 0 0.0 40 75 3 15 118 115 0 0 -- .975 4.8 -- -- 17.4 85.7 2
1981 Texas Rangers AL MLB tex 23 ss 5 4 38.0 5 21 1 5 27 26 0 0 -- .963 5.2 0.68 6.16 4.8 71.4 3
1981 Wichita Aeros Amer AAA tex 23 3b 4 0 0.0 0 2 1 0 3 2 0 0 -- .667 0.5 -- -- 3.0 3.5 5
1981 Wichita Aeros Amer AAA tex 23 ss 109 0 0.0 182 306 29 75 517 488 0 0 -- .944 4.5 -- -- 80.7 94.8 1
1982 Pittsburgh Pirates NL MLB pit 24 2b 2 0 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- .000 0.0 0.00 0.00 1.2 66.7 3
1982 Pittsburgh Pirates NL MLB pit 24 ss 1 1 9.0 1 2 0 0 3 3 0 0 -- 1.000 3.0 0.33 3.00 0.6 33.3 4
1982 Portland Beavers PCL AAA pit 24 2b 1 0 0.0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 -- -- 0.7 0.7 6
1982 Portland Beavers PCL AAA pit 24 ss 134 0 0.0 224 342 19 50 585 566 0 0 -- .968 4.2 -- -- 93.1 100.0 1
1983 Lynn Sailors East AA pit 25 2b 100 0 0.0 190 267 14 55 471 457 0 0 -- .970 4.6 -- -- 71.9 82.0 1
1983 Lynn Sailors East AA pit 25 ss 23 0 0.0 25 40 3 5 68 65 0 0 -- .956 2.8 -- -- 16.5 18.9 2
1984 Hawaii Islanders PCL AAA pit 26 1b 1 0 0.0 4 0 0 0 4 4 0 0 -- 1.000 4.0 -- -- 0.7 1.4 8
1984 Hawaii Islanders PCL AAA pit 26 2b 49 0 0.0 90 121 7 24 218 211 0 0 -- .968 4.3 -- -- 35.0 67.1 1
1984 Hawaii Islanders PCL AAA pit 26 3b 4 0 0.0 4 8 1 1 13 12 0 0 -- .923 3.0 -- -- 2.9 5.5 3
1984 Hawaii Islanders PCL AAA pit 26 ss 17 0 0.0 23 45 0 18 68 68 0 0 -- 1.000 4.0 -- -- 12.1 23.3 2
1985 Rochester Red Wings IL AAA bal 27 2b 67 0 0.0 121 174 9 41 304 295 0 0 -- .970 4.4 -- -- 48.2 79.8 1
1985 Rochester Red Wings IL AAA bal 27 ss 16 0 0.0 16 51 9 7 76 67 0 0 -- .882 4.2 -- -- 11.5 19.0 2
1986 Jacksonville Expos Sou AA mon 28 2b 4 0 0.0 10 11 1 2 22 21 0 0 -- .955 5.3 -- -- 2.8 3.3 3
1986 Jacksonville Expos Sou AA mon 28 ss 112 0 0.0 165 261 19 55 445 426 0 0 -- .957 3.8 -- -- 78.3 91.8 1
1986 Jacksonville Expos Sou AA mon 28 of 4 0 0.0 7 2 0 0 9 9 0 0 -- 1.000 2.3 -- -- 2.8 3.3 9
1987 Montreal Expos NL MLB mon 29 ss 1 1 8.0 1 1 1 0 3 2 0 0 -- .667 2.0 0.25 2.25 0.6 100.0 5
1987 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 29 2b 15 0 0.0 24 35 1 8 60 59 0 0 -- .983 3.9 -- -- 10.9 19.7 2
1987 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 29 3b 24 0 0.0 12 23 1 2 36 35 0 0 -- .972 1.5 -- -- 17.4 31.6 2
1987 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 29 ss 32 0 0.0 47 80 6 18 133 127 0 0 -- .955 4.0 -- -- 23.2 42.1 2
1987 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 29 of 1 0 0.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 -- -- 0.7 1.3 9
1988 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 30 2b 1 0 0.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 -- -- 0.7 1.5 5
1988 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 30 3b 7 0 0.0 2 9 1 0 12 11 0 0 -- .917 1.6 -- -- 4.9 10.4 4
1988 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 30 ss 55 0 0.0 66 104 6 27 176 170 0 0 -- .966 3.1 -- -- 38.7 82.1 1
1989 Indianapolis Indians Amer AAA mon 31 ss 3 0 0.0 6 9 0 4 15 15 0 0 -- 1.000 5.0 -- -- 2.1 37.5 4
Total MLB (2 yrs) -- MLB -- -- 2b 3 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- 0.0 0.00 0.00 -- -- --
Total MLB (1 yrs) -- MLB -- -- 3b 6 2 23 2 4 0 1 6 6 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 0.26 2.35 -- -- --
Total MLB (6 yrs) -- MLB -- -- ss 184 141 1,261 219 417 31 88 667 636 0 0 -- .954 3.5 0.50 4.54 -- -- --
Total AAA (1 yrs) -- AAA -- -- 1b 1 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 4 0 0 -- 1.000 4.0 -- -- -- -- --
Total AAA (6 yrs) -- AAA -- -- 2b 136 0 0 246 337 17 77 600 583 0 0 -- .972 4.3 -- -- -- -- --
Total AAA (4 yrs) -- AAA -- -- 3b 39 0 0 18 42 4 3 64 60 0 0 -- .938 1.5 -- -- -- -- --
Total AAA (9 yrs) -- AAA -- -- ss 512 0 0 804 1388 111 307 2303 2192 0 0 -- .952 4.3 -- -- -- -- --
Total AAA (1 yrs) -- AAA -- -- of 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 -- 1.000 1.0 -- -- -- -- --
Total AA (2 yrs) -- AA -- -- 2b 104 0 0 200 278 15 57 493 478 0 0 -- .970 4.6 -- -- -- -- --
Total AA (2 yrs) -- AA -- -- ss 135 0 0 190 301 22 60 513 491 0 0 -- .957 3.6 -- -- -- -- --
Total AA (1 yrs) -- AA -- -- of 4 0 0 7 2 0 0 9 9 0 0 -- 1.000 2.3 -- -- -- -- --
Yearly Positional Grid
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  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year category pos p pos c pos 1b pos 2b pos 3b pos ss pos lf pos cf pos rf pos of pos dh
1978 Minor 0 0 0 0 0 122 0 0 0 0 0
1978 MLB 0 0 0 0 6 18 0 0 0 0 0
1979 MLB 0 0 0 1 0 142 0 0 0 0 0
1980 Minor 0 0 0 3 0 24 0 0 0 0 0
1980 MLB 0 0 0 0 0 17 0 0 0 0 0
1981 Minor 0 0 0 0 4 109 0 0 0 0 0
1981 MLB 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0
1982 Minor 0 0 0 1 0 134 0 0 0 0 0
1982 MLB 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
1983 Minor 0 0 0 100 0 23 0 0 0 0 0
1984 Minor 0 0 1 49 4 17 0 0 0 0 0
1985 Minor 0 0 0 67 0 16 0 0 0 0 0
1986 Minor 0 0 0 4 0 112 0 0 0 4 0
1987 Minor 0 0 0 15 24 32 0 0 0 1 0
1987 MLB 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
1988 Minor 0 0 0 1 7 55 0 0 0 0 0
1989 Minor 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0