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Proper Name
Jeffrey T. Lyman
High Level
AAA
Positions
P (198)
Ht / Wt
6-3 / 215
Bats / Throws
Right / Right
age
37.094
place
San Francisco,California
High School
Monte Vista (Danville,CA)
Signing Bonus
$ 460,000
draft posit
P
MLB Teams
ATL [6] OAK [2] SLN [1]
TBC#
54464
mlbam id
476686
Strikeouts
50
Walks
31
Hittable
40
SO/BB
33
vsPower
40
Hitting
14
Durability
79
Team
.503
Player Tags
Player Notes:  
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Pitching Statistics
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year team name league level org age   # link role   w   l   g gs cg sh gr gf sv ip   h   r er hr bb so wp bk hb era whip h9 hr9 bb9 so9 ra9 so/bb
2005 Gulf Coast Braves GCL Rk atl 18 -- -- Starter 0 3 8 7 0 0 1 0 0 34.0 41 27 16 2 7 28 2 0 4 4.24 1.41 10.85 0.53 1.85 7.41 7.15 4.00
2006 Gulf Coast Braves GCL Rk atl 19 -- -- Starter 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 6.0 2 1 1 0 1 9 0 0 0 1.50 0.50 3.00 0.00 1.50 13.50 1.50 9.00
2006 Rome Braves SAL A atl 19 40 -- Starter 6 6 22 18 0 0 4 2 0 100.1 118 57 50 3 47 80 10 0 0 4.49 1.64 10.58 0.27 4.22 7.18 5.11 1.70
2007 Rome Braves SAL A atl 20 -- -- Starter 5 8 20 20 0 0 0 0 0 104.0 122 64 53 10 39 77 12 0 0 4.59 1.55 10.56 0.87 3.38 6.66 5.54 1.97
2007 Myrtle Beach Pelicans Caro A+ atl 20 27 -- Rel/St 0 5 8 2 0 0 6 2 0 31.1 39 42 31 4 20 17 6 0 0 8.90 1.88 11.20 1.15 5.74 4.88 12.06 0.85
2008 Myrtle Beach Pelicans Caro A+ atl 21 45 -- Rel/St 3 6 32 7 0 0 25 6 0 84.1 75 50 43 5 46 82 4 0 0 4.59 1.43 8.00 0.53 4.91 8.75 5.34 1.78
2008 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 21 -- -- Starter 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 5.0 2 0 0 0 2 3 0 0 0 0.00 0.80 3.60 0.00 3.60 5.40 0.00 1.50
2009 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 22 45 -- Rel/St 5 7 33 8 0 0 25 4 0 86.2 70 36 30 3 43 76 4 0 0 3.12 1.30 7.27 0.31 4.47 7.89 3.74 1.77
2009 Gwinnett Braves IL AAA atl 22 -- -- Rel/St 0 2 5 2 0 0 3 1 0 11.0 11 6 6 0 10 11 3 0 0 4.91 1.91 9.00 0.00 8.18 9.00 4.91 1.10
2010 Midland RockHounds Tex AA oak 23 32 -- St/Rel 0 4 10 8 0 0 2 0 0 28.1 40 28 27 5 15 25 9 0 0 8.58 1.94 12.71 1.59 4.76 7.94 8.89 1.67
2010 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 23 -- -- Reliever 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1.0 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 9.00 2.00 18.00 0.00 0.00 9.00 9.00 --
2010 Gwinnett Braves IL AAA atl 23 43 -- Reliever 0 0 21 0 0 0 21 5 0 34.1 32 24 18 2 23 26 2 0 3 4.72 1.60 8.39 0.52 6.03 6.82 6.29 1.13
2011 Gulf Coast Cardinals GCL Rk sln 24 -- -- Reliever 1 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 4.1 8 6 5 1 3 3 1 0 2 10.38 2.54 16.62 2.08 6.23 6.23 12.46 1.00
2011 Palm Beach Cardinals FSL A+ sln 24 55 -- Reliever 1 0 7 0 0 0 7 4 0 11.0 7 4 3 0 10 5 1 0 1 2.45 1.55 5.73 0.00 8.18 4.09 3.27 0.50
2011 Stockton Ports Calif A+ oak 24 33 -- Reliever 0 0 8 0 0 0 8 2 0 11.1 15 10 10 1 6 14 1 0 3 7.94 1.85 11.91 0.79 4.76 11.12 7.94 2.33
2011 Springfield Cardinals Tex AA sln 24 39 -- Reliever 0 0 17 0 0 0 17 4 0 20.2 18 12 12 4 13 17 2 0 0 5.23 1.50 7.84 1.74 5.66 7.40 5.23 1.31
2012 Long Island Ducks Atl Indy 25 -- -- Reliever 2 2 9 0 0 0 9 4 0 8.1 10 13 12 0 10 5 6 0 8 12.96 2.40 10.80 0.00 10.80 5.40 14.04 0.50
2013 Amarillo Sox AmAs Indy 26 -- -- Reliever 0 1 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 4.1 5 3 3 0 4 2 2 0 0 6.23 2.08 10.38 0.00 8.31 4.15 6.23 0.50
2005 Rk Total -- ATL -- -- -- Starter 0 3 8 7 0 0 1 0 0 34.0 41 27 16 2 7 28 2 0 4 4.24 1.41 10.85 0.53 1.85 7.41 7.15 4.00
2006 Rk / A Total -- ATL -- -- -- Starter 6 6 24 20 0 0 4 2 0 106.3 120 58 51 3 48 89 10 0 0 4.32 1.58 10.16 0.25 4.06 7.53 4.91 1.85
2007 A / A+ Total -- ATL -- -- -- St/Rel 5 13 28 22 0 0 6 2 0 135.3 161 106 84 14 59 94 18 0 0 5.59 1.63 10.71 0.93 3.92 6.25 7.05 1.59
2008 A+ / AA Total -- ATL -- -- -- Rel/St 3 6 33 8 0 0 25 6 0 89.3 77 50 43 5 48 85 4 0 0 4.33 1.40 7.76 0.50 4.84 8.56 5.04 1.77
2009 AAA / AA Total -- ATL -- -- -- Rel/St 5 9 38 10 0 0 28 5 0 97.7 81 42 36 3 53 87 7 0 0 3.32 1.37 7.46 0.28 4.88 8.02 3.87 1.64
2010 AAA / AA Total -- OAK,ATL -- -- -- Rel/St 0 4 32 8 0 0 24 5 0 63.7 74 53 46 7 38 52 11 0 3 6.50 1.76 10.46 0.99 5.37 7.35 7.49 1.37
2011 A+ / AA / Rk Total -- SLN,OAK -- -- -- Reliever 2 0 35 0 0 0 35 10 0 47.3 48 32 30 6 32 39 5 0 6 5.70 1.69 9.13 1.14 6.08 7.42 6.08 1.22
2012 Indy Total -- -- -- -- Reliever 2 2 9 0 0 0 9 4 0 8.3 10 13 12 0 10 5 6 0 8 12.96 2.40 10.80 0.00 10.80 5.40 14.04 0.50
2013 Indy Total -- -- -- -- Reliever 0 1 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 4.3 5 3 3 0 4 2 2 0 0 6.23 2.08 10.38 0.00 8.31 4.15 6.23 0.50
Total Minors (7 yrs) -- Minors -- -- -- -- -- 21 41 198 75 0 0 123 30 0 573.2 602 368 306 40 285 474 57 0 13 4.80 1.55 9.44 0.63 4.47 7.44 5.77 1.66
Total AAA (2 yrs) -- AAA -- -- -- -- -- 0 2 26 2 0 0 24 6 0 45.1 43 30 24 2 33 37 5 0 3 4.76 1.68 8.54 0.40 6.55 7.35 5.96 1.12
Total AA (4 yrs) -- AA -- -- -- -- -- 5 11 62 17 0 0 45 8 0 141.2 132 77 70 12 73 122 15 0 0 4.45 1.45 8.39 0.76 4.64 7.75 4.89 1.67
Total A+ (3 yrs) -- A+ -- -- -- -- -- 4 11 55 9 0 0 46 14 0 138.0 136 106 87 10 82 118 12 0 4 5.67 1.58 8.87 0.65 5.35 7.70 6.91 1.44
Total A (2 yrs) -- A -- -- -- -- -- 11 14 42 38 0 0 4 2 0 204.1 240 121 103 13 86 157 22 0 0 4.54 1.60 10.57 0.57 3.79 6.92 5.33 1.83
Total Rk (3 yrs) -- Rk -- -- -- -- -- 1 3 13 9 0 0 4 0 0 44.1 51 34 22 3 11 40 3 0 6 4.47 1.40 10.35 0.61 2.23 8.12 6.90 3.64
Total Indy (2 yrs) -- Indy -- -- -- -- -- 2 3 13 0 0 0 13 4 0 12.2 15 16 15 0 14 7 8 0 8 10.66 2.29 10.66 0.00 9.95 4.97 11.37 0.50
Other Pitching
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  • Sort: Click a column in the first header row to sort data by values in that column. Click again to reverse the original sort. Some cells have custom sort keys that will sort them logically instead of alphanumerically.
  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year team name league level age role   w   l   g gs cg sh gr gf sv ip   h   r er hr bb so wp bk hb era whip h9 hr9 bb9 so9 ra9 so/bb
2009 Peoria Saguaros Arizona Fall League AFL 22 Rel/St 0 1 11 2 0 0 9 0 0 14.0 18 11 11 4 6 11 0 0 0 7.07 1.71 11.57 2.57 3.86 7.07 7.07 1.83
2010 Atlanta Braves MLB Spring Training Spring 23 Reliever 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 1 4.0 5 1 1 0 0 5 1 0 0 2.25 1.25 11.25 0.00 0.00 11.25 2.25 --
2013 Canberra Cavalry Australia Australia 26 Rel/St 1 2 14 6 0 0 8 1 0 42.0 38 23 19 1 24 26 0 0 2 4.07 1.48 8.14 0.21 5.14 5.57 4.93 1.08
-- Totals -- AFL 22 -- 0 1 11 2 0 0 9 0 0 14.0 18 11 11 4 6 11 0 0 0 7.07 1.71 11.57 2.57 3.86 7.07 7.07 1.83
-- Totals -- Australia 26 -- 1 2 14 6 0 0 8 1 0 42.0 38 23 19 1 24 26 0 0 2 4.07 1.48 8.14 0.21 5.14 5.57 4.93 1.08
-- Totals -- Spring 23 -- 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 1 4.0 5 1 1 0 0 5 1 0 0 2.25 1.25 11.25 0.00 0.00 11.25 2.25 --
Batting Statistics
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  • Select Rows: Single-click rows to select multiple rows for future action or visibility.
  • Hide Rows: Click the` minus sign in the first column to hide the row in the grid.
  • Restore Rows: Once rows are filtered, click RESTORE ROWS to show all rows once again
  • Sort: Click a column in the first header row to sort data by values in that column. Click again to reverse the original sort. Some cells have custom sort keys that will sort them logically instead of alphanumerically.
  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year team name league level org age   # pos link   g ab   r   h 2b 3b hr rbi sb cs bb so hbp sh sf iw gdp tb pa xbh 1b avg obp slg ops secA iso babip bb% so% so/bb ab/hr
2009 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 22 45 p -- 33 11 2 4 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 5 1 1 0 0 0 5 15 1 3 .364 .500 .455 .955 .273 .091 .667 13.33 33.33 2.50 --
2009 Gwinnett Braves IL AAA atl 22 -- p -- 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 0.00 -- --
2011 Springfield Cardinals Tex AA sln 24 39 p -- 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 -- 0.00 100.00 -- --
2009 AA / AAA Total -- ATL -- -- -- -- 38 12 2 4 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 5 1 1 0 0 0 5 16 1 3 .333 .467 .417 .883 .250 .083 .571 12.50 31.25 2.50 --
2011 AA Total -- SLN -- -- -- -- 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 -- 0.00 100.00 -- --
Total Minors (2 yrs) -- Minors -- -- -- -- -- 47 13 2 4 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 6 1 1 0 0 0 5 17 1 3 .308 .438 .385 .822 .231 .077 .571 11.76 35.29 3.00 --
Total AAA (1 yrs) -- AAA -- -- -- -- -- 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 0.00 0.00 -- --
Total AA (2 yrs) -- AA -- -- -- -- -- 42 12 2 4 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 6 1 1 0 0 0 5 16 1 3 .333 .467 .417 .883 .250 .083 .667 12.50 37.50 3.00 --
Other Batting
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  • Select Rows: Single-click rows to select multiple rows for future action or visibility.
  • Hide Rows: Click the` minus sign in the first column to hide the row in the grid.
  • Restore Rows: Once rows are filtered, click RESTORE ROWS to show all rows once again
  • Sort: Click a column in the first header row to sort data by values in that column. Click again to reverse the original sort. Some cells have custom sort keys that will sort them logically instead of alphanumerically.
  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year team name league level age   g ab   r   h 2b 3b hr rbi sb cs bb so hbp sh sf iw gdp tb pa xbh 1b avg obp slg ops secA iso babip bb% so% so/bb ab/hr
2010 Atlanta Braves MLB Spring Training Spring 23 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
-- Totals -- Spring 23 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Fielding Statistics
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  • Manual Filter: Single-click a row to highlight in orange. Click FILTER ROWS button to show only those rows in the grid
  • Quick-Filter: Double-Click on a cell value to filter the grid on rows that have same value in same column. Click a statistic to view all values equal or higher
  • Select Rows: Single-click rows to select multiple rows for future action or visibility.
  • Hide Rows: Click the` minus sign in the first column to hide the row in the grid.
  • Restore Rows: Once rows are filtered, click RESTORE ROWS to show all rows once again
  • Sort: Click a column in the first header row to sort data by values in that column. Click again to reverse the original sort. Some cells have custom sort keys that will sort them logically instead of alphanumerically.
  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year team name league level mlb age pos   g gs inn po   a   e dp tc tsc sb cs sb% fpct rfg rfi rf9i tm shr pl shr tm rk
2005 Gulf Coast Braves GCL Rk atl 18 p 8 0 0.0 1 6 3 0 10 7 0 0 -- .700 0.9 -- -- 15.4 100.0 12
2006 Rome Braves SAL A atl 19 p 22 0 0.0 4 9 2 1 15 13 0 0 -- .867 0.6 -- -- 15.8 100.0 6
2006 Gulf Coast Braves GCL Rk atl 19 p 2 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- .000 0.0 -- -- 4.0 100.0 22
2007 Myrtle Beach Pelicans Caro A+ atl 20 p 8 0 0.0 2 2 2 0 6 4 0 0 -- .667 0.5 -- -- 5.8 100.0 19
2007 Rome Braves SAL A atl 20 p 20 0 0.0 9 6 4 1 19 15 0 0 -- .789 0.8 -- -- 14.3 100.0 9
2008 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 21 p 1 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 -- .000 0.0 -- -- 0.7 100.0 24
2008 Myrtle Beach Pelicans Caro A+ atl 21 p 32 0 0.0 5 5 1 1 11 10 0 0 -- .909 0.3 -- -- 22.9 100.0 3
2009 Gwinnett Braves IL AAA atl 22 p 5 0 0.0 3 0 1 0 4 3 0 0 -- .750 0.6 -- -- 3.5 100.0 24
2009 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 22 p 33 0 0.0 4 9 3 0 16 13 0 0 -- .813 0.4 -- -- 23.9 100.0 5
2010 Gwinnett Braves IL AAA atl 23 p 21 0 0.0 3 1 2 0 6 4 0 0 -- .667 0.2 -- -- 14.7 100.0 11
2010 Midland RockHounds Tex AA oak 23 p 10 0 0.0 1 4 2 0 7 5 0 0 -- .714 0.5 -- -- 7.1 100.0 19
2010 Mississippi Braves Sou AA atl 23 p 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- .000 0.0 -- -- 0.7 100.0 26
2011 Springfield Cardinals Tex AA sln 24 p 17 0 0.0 1 2 0 0 3 3 0 0 -- 1.000 0.2 -- -- 12.1 100.0 13
2011 Palm Beach Cardinals FSL A+ sln 24 p 7 0 0.0 3 0 1 0 4 3 0 0 -- .750 0.4 -- -- 5.1 100.0 21
2011 Stockton Ports Calif A+ oak 24 p 8 0 0.0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 -- 1.000 0.1 -- -- 5.7 100.0 18
2011 Gulf Coast Cardinals GCL Rk sln 24 p 3 0 0.0 0 2 1 0 3 2 0 0 -- .667 0.7 -- -- 5.5 100.0 15
Total AAA (2 yrs) -- AAA -- -- p 26 0 0 6 1 3 0 10 7 0 0 -- .700 0.3 -- -- -- -- --
Total AA (4 yrs) -- AA -- -- p 62 0 0 6 15 6 0 27 21 0 0 -- .778 0.3 -- -- -- -- --
Total A+ (3 yrs) -- A+ -- -- p 55 0 0 10 8 4 1 22 18 0 0 -- .818 0.3 -- -- -- -- --
Total A (2 yrs) -- A -- -- p 42 0 0 13 15 6 2 34 28 0 0 -- .824 0.7 -- -- -- -- --
Total Rk (3 yrs) -- Rk -- -- p 13 0 0 1 8 4 0 13 9 0 0 -- .692 0.7 -- -- -- -- --
Yearly Positional Grid
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  • Manual Filter: Single-click a row to highlight in orange. Click FILTER ROWS button to show only those rows in the grid
  • Quick-Filter: Double-Click on a cell value to filter the grid on rows that have same value in same column. Click a statistic to view all values equal or higher
  • Select Rows: Single-click rows to select multiple rows for future action or visibility.
  • Hide Rows: Click the` minus sign in the first column to hide the row in the grid.
  • Restore Rows: Once rows are filtered, click RESTORE ROWS to show all rows once again
  • Sort: Click a column in the first header row to sort data by values in that column. Click again to reverse the original sort. Some cells have custom sort keys that will sort them logically instead of alphanumerically.
  • Compare/Analyze: Click multiple rows for players of interest. In addition to filtering, you can quickly COMPARE player stats or use the MULTI-PLAYER STAT VIEWER to view multiple player cards on the same page.
  • Leaders: On stat grids. Top-10 ranked statistics are highlighted in gray. #1 rank is in light green. (PREMIUM setting)
  • Export to CSV: Click CSV to convert the full grid into a comma-delimeted display. From there, you can copy/paste to another application.
year category pos p pos c pos 1b pos 2b pos 3b pos ss pos lf pos cf pos rf pos of pos dh
2005 Minor 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 Minor 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 Minor 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2008 Minor 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2009 Minor 38 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2010 Minor 32 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2011 Minor 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0